6 Million Muslims LEAVE Islam every year!!!

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Postby qazaqstan on Tue May 08, 2007 7:50 pm

6 million? impossible! i dont believe that! too much of propaganda! 8)
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Postby The_Truth on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:22 pm

In Audio (Al-Jazeerah's interview with Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani, the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo
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Postby rasheemo on Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:34 am

I am deeply saddened by all the blind hating going on.

First of all, why does anyone think that terrorism is something common in Islam? It is most certainly NOT forgivable. You can't tell me otherwise because I AM Muslim and mingle with many other Muslims who are all incredibly angry that our image is sullied by those who commit crimes in the name of Islam.

If Islam encouraged killing innocent people, regardless of their religion, i WOULD KNOW. My parents did not teach me to hurt anyone unless they hurt me.

About the Arab governments in the Middle-east: most of them are corrupt. I do not believe that they represent any Muslim. They only care about their money. It's very frustrating that donated money may not reach the homeless and starving over there because the government simply doesn't care about the welfare of it's own people.

I am a Muslim and im SPEAKING OUT against terrorism everywhere, no matter who did it and for what purpose.

I will gladly discuss any misunderstandings, but please speak to me with the intention of wanting to know rather than trying to disprove me just to make Islam look evil. I'm not here to argue, but to inform. Islam shares a lot with Christianity, and maybe through our dialogue we will learn that.

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Postby shalom on Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:40 am

Bravo!! Well said rasheemo. It is very difficult to find muslims condemning those muslims who kill other people for their own benefits.
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Postby John 10:10 on Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:32 pm

rasheemo

Please be careful when and where you speak out against Islamic terrorism. We Christians can speak out against killings and injustices done in the name of Christianity without fear of losing our lives. The same cannot be said by those such as you.

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Postby rasheemo on Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:52 pm

John, don't be ridiculous. I live in America, not under some crazy radical government. Stop trying to use every opportunity to boast about Christianity. You can't be saying that every Christian is a just, humble, and a true believer? or are you?

we don't live in a perfect world.
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Postby John 10:10 on Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:47 pm

I'm simply saying you can't speak out against Islamic terrorism in many, if not most Islamic countries in the world, without fear of one's life.

In America and in most other western countries, Christians can speak out against killings and injustices done in the name of Christianity without fear of one's life.

If this offends you, I apologize.
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Postby rasheemo on Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:23 pm

First of all, your statement is not true. You can speak out against terrorism in MOST Islamic countries without worrying about endangering your life. I will not deny that some countries are messed up and may not allow you the type of freedoms that other countries do.

I am not offended, and i apologize if i seemed to be attacking you.

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Postby John 10:10 on Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:07 pm

rasheemo wrote:First of all, your statement is not true. You can speak out against terrorism in MOST Islamic countries without worrying about endangering your life. I will not deny that some countries are messed up and may not allow you the type of freedoms that other countries do.

If what you say is true, then why is it not done to any great extent in predominantly Muslin countries?

I contend that some Muslims are able and do speak out against Islamic terrorisn in western countries, but not in predominantly Muslin countries. The reason why they do not do so in predominantly Muslin countries is obvious to most of us in the west. They either silently support what is being done, or they fear for their lives if they speak out against them.

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Postby rasheemo on Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:53 am

Where is your proof that this is not done? Lack of media attention? That's preposterous.

Here is a Shiekh in Qatar publicly announcing that terrorism is against islam:
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News ... le25.shtml

Here is a Shiekh from Lebanon also detesting terrorism:
http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/bin_laden.html

Saudi clerics condemn terrorism:
http://www.iviews.com/scripts/news/stor ... ?id=670835

Saudi grand mufti condemns terrorism;
http://saudiembassy.net/press_release/0 ... -Islam.htm
(above two links seem to be broken at the moment, my apologies)

Al-Qaradawi of Egypt denounces terrorism, as well as Tahir ul Qadri of Pakistan:
http://www.juancole.com/2005/07/friedma ... n-and.html

and the Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/ ... 690624.stm


What about the more than 40 Muslim scholars, in countries including (but not limited to) tunisia,egypt,palestine,qatar, and malaysia, who signed upon this:

?The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur'an: 'No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another' (Surah al-Isra 17:15).?

All of the countries i mentioned are predominantly Muslim.

do you need more? or are you still blinded by hate?

I don't care about anyone supporting terrorism. They aren't Muslim nor are they Christian in my eyes, and that's that. If you want to argue about why fanatics who pretend to be Muslim do the things they do, leave me out of it, because that doesn't concern me. My duty as a Muslim is to speak the truth. If you want every Muslim in the world to come shake your hand and tell you personally that they detest and condemn terrorism, then i have to apologize because you won't get that.
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Postby newseed on Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:04 pm

rasheemo wrote:Where is your proof that this is not done? Lack of media attention? That's preposterous.

Here is a Shiekh in Qatar publicly announcing that terrorism is against islam:
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News ... le25.shtml

Here is a Shiekh from Lebanon also detesting terrorism:
http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/bin_laden.html

Saudi clerics condemn terrorism:
http://www.iviews.com/scripts/news/stor ... ?id=670835

Saudi grand mufti condemns terrorism;
http://saudiembassy.net/press_release/0 ... -Islam.htm
(above two links seem to be broken at the moment, my apologies)

Al-Qaradawi of Egypt denounces terrorism, as well as Tahir ul Qadri of Pakistan:
http://www.juancole.com/2005/07/friedma ... n-and.html

and the Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/ ... 690624.stm


What about the more than 40 Muslim scholars, in countries including (but not limited to) tunisia,egypt,palestine,qatar, and malaysia, who signed upon this:

?The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur'an: 'No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another' (Surah al-Isra 17:15).?

All of the countries i mentioned are predominantly Muslim.

do you need more? or are you still blinded by hate?

I don't care about anyone supporting terrorism. They aren't Muslim nor are they Christian in my eyes, and that's that. If you want to argue about why fanatics who pretend to be Muslim do the things they do, leave me out of it, because that doesn't concern me. My duty as a Muslim is to speak the truth. If you want every Muslim in the world to come shake your hand and tell you personally that they detest and condemn terrorism, then i have to apologize because you won't get that.


If this is true, then why hasn't their been a major outcry and effort to defuse these terrorists that are stationed within their own countries? So far, other than Pakistan, it seems that only the western countries are doing the dirty work.

Here's the link to the full movie:

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West - The Movie


The following links are Fox News' program on the subject:

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West (ABRIDGED)

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West, Part I

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West, Part II

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West, Part III

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West, Part IV

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West, Part V

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West, Part VI


When you watch the video, see how they brainwash the children to hate. It's Nazi all over again.
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Postby John 10:10 on Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:52 pm

I was wromg. There does seem to be some opposition to Islamic terrorists in Muslim countries. But they do not seem to be very effective in combating those terrorists and some Mullahs who motivate their followers to become homicide bombers, most believing they are honoring Allah by killing themselves and others. If you do not believe they believe they are honoring Allah by becoming homicide bombers, read this:

http://www.formermuslims.com/forum/view ... ght=#23931

Maybe you can show me where any so-called Christians believe they are honoring Christ by becoming homicide bombers, killing themselves and others that have not harmed them in any way, shape or form?
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Postby rasheemo on Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:22 pm

my job here isn't to bash other religions. If you've never heard of Christian fanatics blowing up abortion clinics then i think you need to do a little more research before talking about other religions. If Christianity was a religion of terror, then that would be a different story, but since I know, and most others know, that it ISNT a religion of terror, noone thinks it's important to make a hug e public outcry about the violent "Christians". People will see them as misguided people, and that would be it.

and i know that the "Muslim" fanatics BELIEVE they are honoring Allah, but that doesn't mean they ARE honoring Allah. there's a difference.

and in reply to newseed, the movie itself states that it is not a movie about Muslims, because Muslims aren't the terrorists. Also, the governments over there, as ive stated, are INCREDIBLY corrupt (easily bribed). I deeply regret that the Muslims over there are NOT united enough to conquer terrorism and the radicals. I can't say or do anything about that.

However, I am simply arguing the topic's claim that Muslims in general, are the terrorists. I would not study Christians if i wanted to know about Christianity. I would study Christ.

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Postby John 10:10 on Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:11 am

Yes, there have been a few who have blown up abortion clinics and even killed abortion doctors in the name of Christ, but they are the few exceptions. None that I know of felt called to go down with the ship, believing they are honoring Christ by doing so, thereby gaining rewards in heaven.

You are totally correct. If you want to study Christianity, study the life of Christ.

By the same token, if you want to study Islam, study the life of Muhammad.

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Postby rasheemo on Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:46 am

John 10:10 wrote:Yes, there have been a few who have blown up abortion clinics and even killed abortion doctors in the name of Christ, but they are the few exceptions. None that I know of felt called to go down with the ship, believing they are honoring Christ by doing so, thereby gaining rewards in heaven.

You are totally correct. If you want to study Christianity, study the life of Christ.

By the same token, if you want to study Islam, study the life of Muhammad.

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That's correct. Thank you =]
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Re: 6 Million Muslims LEAVE Islam every year!!!

Postby Raza on Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:48 am

Do you guys have a second source other than Al-Jazerra?
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Re: 6 Million Muslims LEAVE Islam every year!!!

Postby M..S on Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:57 am

Al-Jazeerah is the most trusted source of any information in the arab world, and its becoming world-wide with the Al-jazeerah international. You dont need any other source, since none would be much trusted as this.
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Re: 6 Million Muslims LEAVE Islam every year!!!

Postby a_yahya on Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:54 pm

112:1-4 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.

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Re: 6 Million Muslims LEAVE Islam every year!!!

Postby Raza on Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:43 pm

M..S wrote:Al-Jazeerah is the most trusted source of any information in the arab world, and its becoming world-wide with the Al-jazeerah international. You dont need any other source, since none would be much trusted as this.

Another source would make me believe that it's true.

The reason why I doubt this is because there is no real way to calulate this, and it really depends on who you ask. I don't think Al-Jazeera went all around the world simply so that they can say a mere sentence.
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Re: 6 Million Muslims LEAVE Islam every year!!!

Postby barcajunior on Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:31 am

It's really a bad news.
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