6 Million Muslims LEAVE Islam every year!!!

For all who rejected Islam, whatever their believes now.

Postby yusuf on Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:57 am

John 10:10 wrote:The statistics of 6 million Africans leaving Islam for Christianity were given by muslims themselves and was the subject of the TV program. They are correct for muslims "now" leaving Islam for Christianity in Africa.

The real question muslims should be asking is this: How will mislims fight this exodus of muslims leaving Islam for Christianity - by better educating muslims to their religion and helping muslims get out of poverty; or by guns and bombs, killing those who leave Islam and those who bring Christianity to muslims? Mostly the latter is chosen because muslims are afraid to let the message of God's love through Jesus Christ our Lord compete freely with Muhammad's message and the 5 Pillars of Islam.

May God continue to pour out His Holy Spirit on all of Africa and throughout the world this Christmas Day.

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interesting that you quoted "poverty" in your post, after all jesus gave you all the riches on this earth.

Oh sorry or was it because of English colonialisation of nearly the whole earth for hundreds of years?

Surprise even your son of god jesus told many things in support of the poor! :lol:
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Postby yusuf on Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:04 am

Catholic wrote:Good afternoon to everybody, well, in my opinion is very difficult to understand why 3 millions of christians( catholics or protestants) in Saudi Arabia, it?s very difficult, in addition who is the state of Saudi Arabia to not allow the building of churches or the envagelization, who? I think that the politics are one thing and the religion is another thing, and in all countries must be religious freedom, it?s fair, because all men are the same.
And if Arabia Saudi don?t allow this, we have to criticise and ask for our governments, that they ask for reciprocity.

PS: Excuse me my english

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catholic have you read your bible?

Deu 13:6 Suppose your own full brother, your son, your daughter, your beloved wife, or your closest friend should seduce you secretly and encourage you to go and serve other gods that neither you nor your ancestors have previously known, 13:7 the gods of the surrounding people (whether near to or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other). 13:8 You must not give in to him or even listen to him; do not feel sympathy for him or spare him or cover up for him. 13:9 Instead, you must kill him without fail! Your own hand must be the first to strike him, and then the hands of the whole community.

So much for the religious freedom :P
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Postby Risen on Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:09 pm

yusuf wrote:
John 10:10 wrote:The statistics of 6 million Africans leaving Islam for Christianity were given by muslims themselves and was the subject of the TV program. They are correct for muslims "now" leaving Islam for Christianity in Africa.

The real question muslims should be asking is this: How will mislims fight this exodus of muslims leaving Islam for Christianity - by better educating muslims to their religion and helping muslims get out of poverty; or by guns and bombs, killing those who leave Islam and those who bring Christianity to muslims? Mostly the latter is chosen because muslims are afraid to let the message of God's love through Jesus Christ our Lord compete freely with Muhammad's message and the 5 Pillars of Islam.

May God continue to pour out His Holy Spirit on all of Africa and throughout the world this Christmas Day.

Blessings



interesting that you quoted "poverty" in your post, after all jesus gave you all the riches on this earth.

Oh sorry or was it because of English colonialisation of nearly the whole earth for hundreds of years?

Surprise even your son of god jesus told many things in support of the poor! :lol:

You didn't seem to address John 10:10's point that muslims spend their money of weapons and bombs instead of their children and thus live in poverty. What is your reasoning for that?

I do agree with you that England had colonies and that they enriched themselves from that situation...although that doesn't seem to address the poverty of Arab nations because there was no wealth to speak of for England to make off with. The real wealth of that region, oil, wasn't a commoditity until after the English were primarily withdrawn.

You do seem to make a strange connection between English colonialism and Christianity...they are separate things.

And lastly, you're quite right, Jesus did make many statements and lived as an example on how to treat the poor. This is one reason why many Christians try to enter poor Islamic nations and attempt to help the poor there. Sometimes they are murdered for their faithfulness to God in going to the poor...but God will reward them in heaven for their faithfulness none the less and more will continue to go to the poor throughout the world.

Glad to see you in support of Christian charities.

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Postby Catholic on Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:17 pm

Good Afternoon another time
Well I would like answer to Yusuf, you acusse the christians no to be tolerants with other religions becuase in the deuteronomy there are this message, well in the first time, Jesus changed a lot this things, the old testament is the history of salvation in Israel and the end is Jesus, Jesus is the answer of all things and is the Truth, the Way and the Life, and Jesus said to us " The truth will make you free", and there aren?t any part of the New Testament where Jesus say something violent about other religions, he came to free the humanity not to obligate to none.
You ask me about the crusades or about the Inquisition, yes I know they were crimes in the Church but the Catholic Church and the Protestants Church have asked forgiveness for their black pages, but Islam nor asked neither ask forgiveness for the current and the former crimes.
In the south of Egypt in the churches there are canyons to defend against muslims groups, in my city there are a mosque and the unique discurssion about this mosque are between muslims because there are two grups to own it.
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Postby John 10:10 on Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:31 pm

America started from scratch just 400 years ago, founded by Pilgrims and Putitans who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, and simply wanted the freedom to worship Him and practice His commandments by letting Him write them upon our hearts.

There is an expression here in America - "The proof is in the pudding." America is far from being perfect, but the "blessings from Almighty God" for the last 400 years cannot be denied.

It took a Civil War (1861-1865), but the end result was that slavery was finally purged from our land. The Pilgrims and Puritans did not bring slaves to America. Later immigrants who were interested mainly in making profit from the land did so. Since then America has and continues to be beacon of light for truth and freedom throughout the world.

America did not start WW I or WW II, but God used America to end both. And now America is being vilified for ending a brutal dictator's reign of terror, Saddam Hussein, who tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, all because a few American soldiers abused (not killed) some Iraqi prisoners.

Why are the terrorists so intent on keeping Iraq and other Arab countries in poverty, and without some basic freedoms? Maybe yusuf can provide some revealing answers. I would give my own answer, but yusuf would not like my answer.
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Postby relaxjack on Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:21 am

The discussion about building churches in Saudi Arabia and mosques in Rome is interesting.

Please understand that Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country and is the protector of the two most sacred shrines in Islam. To build a church, a synagogue or a Buddhist temple in that country, you must be the adherents of the religion and citizen of that country. I have not heard of any Christian Saudi who wants to build a church in that country. During the Prophets' time, there were Christians and Jews in S. Arabia and churches and synagogues have been built and protected.

While some mosques have been built in Rome, no mosque is allowed to be built in the Vatican City. Could this be due to the religious sanctity of the Catholics for the Vatican City?

In the West, mosques and churches have been built because the countries follow the secularist rule. Similarly, in other Muslim countries, churches are allowed to be build bec there are some local Christians there.

I have the read the topic about evangelistric and christianization of Muslims. I heard the same a few years ago in Indonesia, where Christian organisations took advantage of poverty and money to get Muslims to become Christians. Alhamdulillah, since Islam played a more active role in Indonesia, many of these Christians have returned to the right path.

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Postby isa,dec25th on Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:14 am

relaxjack wrote:The discussion about building churches in Saudi Arabia and mosques in Rome is interesting.

Please understand that Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country and is the protector of the two most sacred shrines in Islam. To build a church, a synagogue or a Buddhist temple in that country, you must be the adherents of the religion and citizen of that country. I have not heard of any Christian Saudi who wants to build a church in that country. During the Prophets' time, there were Christians and Jews in S. Arabia and churches and synagogues have been built and protected.

While some mosques have been built in Rome, no mosque is allowed to be built in the Vatican City. Could this be due to the religious sanctity of the Catholics for the Vatican City?

In the West, mosques and churches have been built because the countries follow the secularist rule. Similarly, in other Muslim countries, churches are allowed to be build bec there are some local Christians there.

I have the read the topic about evangelistric and christianization of Muslims. I heard the same a few years ago in Indonesia, where Christian organisations took advantage of poverty and money to get Muslims to become Christians. Alhamdulillah, since Islam played a more active role in Indonesia, many of these Christians have returned to the right path.

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you are going to compare vatican city with saudi Arabia that has over 29 million people vatican city only has 850 people and they are only Cardinals and priests so why would any one want to bulid a mosque there when all the people that live there are christians rome is the birth place of Catholics and about the people of indonesia how any where force to convert back to the so called true religion
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Postby isa,dec25th on Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:24 am

[quote="relaxjack"]The discussion about building churches in Saudi Arabia and mosques in Rome is interesting.

Please understand that Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country and is the protector of the two most sacred shrines in Islam. To build a church, a synagogue or a Buddhist temple in that country, you must be the adherents of the religion and citizen of that country. I have not heard of any Christian Saudi who wants to build a church in that country. During the Prophets' time, there were Christians and Jews in S. Arabia and churches and synagogues have been built and protected.

While some mosques have been built in Rome, no mosque is allowed to be built in the Vatican City. Could this be due to the religious sanctity of the Catholics for the Vatican City?

In the West, mosques and churches have been built because the countries follow the secularist rule. Similarly, in other Muslim countries, churches are allowed to be build bec there are some local Christians there.

I have the read the topic about evangelistric and christianization of Muslims. I heard the same a few years ago in Indonesia, where Christian organisations took advantage of poverty and money to get Muslims to become Christians. Alhamdulillah, since Islam played a more active role in Indonesia, many of these Christians have returned to the right path.

Salam[/quote} saying why are no mosque in the vatican is like someone saying why are there no churches in your backyard what would you say you would say because their are no christians liveing hear right but 5% of Saudi Arabia are christians there not even allowed to pray in there own house so want about that
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Postby isa,dec25th on Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:40 am

relaxjack wrote:The discussion about building churches in Saudi Arabia and mosques in Rome is interesting.

Please understand that Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country and is the protector of the two most sacred shrines in Islam. To build a church, a synagogue or a Buddhist temple in that country, you must be the adherents of the religion and citizen of that country. I have not heard of any Christian Saudi who wants to build a church in that country. During the Prophets' time, there were Christians and Jews in S. Arabia and churches and synagogues have been built and protected.

While some mosques have been built in Rome, no mosque is allowed to be built in the Vatican City. Could this be due to the religious sanctity of the Catholics for the Vatican City?

In the West, mosques and churches have been built because the countries follow the secularist rule. Similarly, in other Muslim countries, churches are allowed to be build bec there are some local Christians there.

I have the read the topic about evangelistric and christianization of Muslims. I heard the same a few years ago in Indonesia, where Christian organisations took advantage of poverty and money to get Muslims to become Christians. Alhamdulillah, since Islam played a more active role in Indonesia, many of these Christians have returned to the right path.

Salam
so it is taking advantage of people because we tell them we are christians.christians dont force them to convert like muslims do but i guest that is not taking of advantage of people so long that it is islam. jesus lives on thy that is so blinded will never see
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Postby InkoGnito on Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:24 am

siz million is less than half of those who convert into Islam every year.
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Postby ILJ on Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:30 am

Peace InkoGnito,

What's your disguise? :D

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You said,
siz million is less than half of those who convert into Islam every year.
Imho

What through birth?! Please elaborate.


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Postby Ildar on Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:40 am

I decided to reject Islam after terrorist attack against Beslan school. I dont want to have anything common with those persons.
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Postby ILJ on Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:58 am

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Indeed that's a most horrific act on those peoples parts.The blood of those innocent children and others is on their hands!

Please let us know if we can answer any questions you may have about Christianity, or anything esle we may be of assistance to you with.

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Postby Ildar on Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:00 pm

Thank you ILJ. I took the decision in my heart, but I dont know what to do and what questions to ask. I have to think a lot about my life. But thanks :)
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Postby ILJ on Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:53 pm

Peace Idlar,

We're right here if you need us :wink:

I should point out, Jesus our Messiah never commit violent acts, and even while being arrested, one of his discilpes Peter, cut the ear off one of the arresting solidiers, but Jesus rebuked him for doing that, and then healed the soldiers ear.Never did Jesus encourage violence as a means to an end.

So if one who follows Jesus involves themself with violence, then they are going against His teachings etc...

Just thought you should know that :wink:

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Postby thinker06 on Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:53 pm

These are not reliable stories.

Major news networks all say Islam is the fastest spreading religion in the world.
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interesting

Postby Shamelesskafir on Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:02 am

Maybe Al Jazeera is controlled by the Jews!!!!!


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Postby The_Truth on Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:51 am

Hello friends,
Any one has Video link (Streaming or Downlodable) to this inverview ?

Thanks.
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Postby hannahr77 on Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:08 pm

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shalom wrote:Have you guys ever notice that when a muslim gets exposed and trashed (because he deserved it), he uses what Jesus taught to remind the Christians of their "unloving attitude"


Gee...I'm sorry, I thought I'm the one who was supposed to be the "barbarian" here and the Christians are supposed to be the ones who "love" their foes blindly, no matter the circumstances.

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Just how many Christian in the Islamic countries have Moslems supported with money? Isn?t it true that after the earthquake in Pakistan the Pakistani Christian helped the moslems only to be forced out of their home later by the same moslems that they helped, is this the kind of charity your talking about? Do you know just how many $ the west have poured into the suffering Islamic countries and the thanks is that the Christians are being killed raped and GOD knows else shame on you Islam big shame, what about the 2 little Pakistani Christian girls being raped by their non-moslem neighbour and when the father had the audacity to go to the police and report it he was arrested for murder and then you?re wondering why we as times hate Islam?
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